GrouchoMarx Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 https://ontariopathologists.org/ontario-pathologists/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/2018-01-03_GISoft_Tissue_UHN.pdf Is uhn looking for one pathologist to be an expert in both gastrointestinal AND soft tissue path? That's ridiculous. That's like wanting an internal medicine doctor to be a gastroenterolorheumatologist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGrisham Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 2 hours ago, GrouchoMarx said: https://ontariopathologists.org/ontario-pathologists/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/2018-01-03_GISoft_Tissue_UHN.pdf Is uhn looking for one pathologist to be an expert in both gastrointestinal AND soft tissue path? That's ridiculous. That's like wanting an internal medicine doctor to be a gastroenterolorheumatologist. Wow that is unbelievable. They legitimately are asking for fellowships in both too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrouchoMarx Posted January 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 3 hours ago, JohnGrisham said: Wow that is unbelievable. They legitimately are asking for fellowships in both too. ok so im not misreading it. if theres anything that signals the absolute shitshow that is the pathology job market, its this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lactic Folly Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Are there any foreign trained doctors who might have multiple fellowships? It's actually the "creative rostering" comment that caught my eye... first time I've seen that in a job ad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrouchoMarx Posted January 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Lactic Folly said: Are there any foreign trained doctors who might have multiple fellowships? It's actually the "creative rostering" comment that caught my eye... first time I've seen that in a job ad. i bet theyre hoping to get one of the huddled masses from the states. those fellowships have NOTHING in common! And creative rostering is corporate bullshit to say that youll do free research and admin work on weekends and holidays on top of clinical duty. I cannot leave this field soon enough. the huddled masses can have it. heed my warning prospective pathology people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ploughboy Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 And you spend a week a month in Timmins. What's not to love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liszt Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Odd. Two weeks is a very short application window as well... could this be strategic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lactic Folly Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 That's what I would be speculating as well... the level of specificity in the ad could be "tailor-made". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laika Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 1:35 PM, GrouchoMarx said: https://ontariopathologists.org/ontario-pathologists/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/2018-01-03_GISoft_Tissue_UHN.pdf Is uhn looking for one pathologist to be an expert in both gastrointestinal AND soft tissue path? That's ridiculous. That's like wanting an internal medicine doctor to be a gastroenterolorheumatologist. They have someone in mind with this posting. It was obviously crafted to suit a particular applicant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamham Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 I guess when you expect to receive so many applications for a single job position, you can be as demanding as you like in terms of the expertise you would like your ideal candidate to possess. Many would kill to get that job at the UHN though. I've seen ENTs and urologists willing to pursue multiple MSc and fellowships in order to get those UHN jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrouchoMarx Posted February 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 http://cap-acp.org/careers.php?ID=634 A companion piece. Dermpath plus call plus frozen sections plus spending a week per month in Timmins. If you're thinking pathology, shake it out of your head and just do family. Two years and you get the same income but better job flexibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midi Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 2 hours ago, GrouchoMarx said: http://cap-acp.org/careers.php?ID=634 A companion piece. Dermpath plus call plus frozen sections plus spending a week per month in Timmins. If you're thinking pathology, shake it out of your head and just do family. Two years and you get the same income but better job flexibility Any idea if the time in Timmins and call results in additional compensation above the Ontario minimum salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrouchoMarx Posted February 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, midi said: Any idea if the time in Timmins and call results in additional compensation above the Ontario minimum salary? Aside from MAYBE paying for your gas mileage (not your lodging, just gas) I would doubt that there's payment beyond that. That is what I have heard from other people who have done remote work in pathology. Pathologists in ontario are not paid for call. any work on the weekend or after hours is done for free. they say that it is 'part of the contract' Pathology is very bad for this. Hospitals pay pathologists, not OHIP, and they have a vested interest to get as much out of each pathologist for as little money as possible. Since pathology has low standards, a lot of pathologists will accept whatever deal they're given without question. I bet this position has at least 50 applications from pathologists from all over the world. People should not go into pathology. i dont even know if i can recommend it as a backup for the match anymore after seeing these baffling job ads. youll be competing for scraps with everyone in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrouchoMarx Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 just gonna add that locums in pathology pay LESS than a full time position, while the opposite is true in any other field. it is not a good time for students to select pathology. dont feel so bad because the IMGs will take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goleafsgochris Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I wish there were opinions like this on the negatives of other specialties on here. Would really be useful to hear some "cons" for deciding med students (I remember in med school lots of specialties would try and sell themselves, but sometimes you didn't hear a lot of the true negative stuff) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrouchoMarx Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 36 minutes ago, goleafsgochris said: I wish there were opinions like this on the negatives of other specialties on here. Would really be useful to hear some "cons" for deciding med students (I remember in med school lots of specialties would try and sell themselves, but sometimes you didn't hear a lot of the true negative stuff) I feel its my duty to warn people what they may be getting into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lactic Folly Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Maybe not at official career nights -- but chatting with staff I met during electives, most didn't seem hesitant to share what they found challenging or frustrating about their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Se7en Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 I think may be there are some polarized the views on the topic, but yes job prospects in path are dim if you are looking in GTA/Vancouver. However, if you look elsewhere there are job postings across Canada in larger cities and regional centers (most of which are found by word of mouth instead of actual job postings). Really, it comes down to what is more important to you when deciding residency: location or the type of job. There is nothing wrong with deciding one or the other, but for path it is important to be aware that job opportunities are not as plentiful as Family Med, but we are no where near as abysmal as Ortho. That job posting is most definitely targeted to a specific person, as it is way to tailored and reasonably excludes almost every single pathologist in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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