baljotk Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 I remember some fill in the blanks in that question so I can probably find what it was if I go over my notes. Awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baljotk Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Saturday, you awesome, awesome man. how would these be contained in your notes exactly? Any thoughts on the SA question? I'm not sure on how to go about the process from DNA to protein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I'm looking over the slides right now. Know slide 7 lecture 18 (title of the slide is "exon-intron boundaries") this will help you with splicing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkittens Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I'm looking over the slides right now. Know slide 7 lecture 18 (title of the slide is "exon-intron boundaries") this will help you with splicing. You came for us! Dude will he tell you where to start translating from the DNA or does he want you to recognize the promoter elements and such? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 You came for us! Dude will he tell you where to start translating from the DNA or does he want you to recognize the promoter elements and such? I'm pretty sure you have to recognize the promoter elements. Otherwise the question would be too easy to answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkittens Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I'm pretty sure you have to recognize the promoter elements. Otherwise the question would be too each to answer Lol yeah that's why I was asking... but it's like each promoter is at an arbitrary length from the actual initiation site, would you just find the TATAAT, count 10 from the first T and assume you start transcribing from there? It's even worse if it was eukaryotic (prokaryots don't have splice sites right?) because those have variable lengths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I think there was a question of figure 32.14 Also supercoiling (relaxed circle, linear DNA, unwound circle) I remember a MC question about the molecule in the middle of every glycogen (i.e. glycogenin) dont know if it was on the final or the midterms (maybe both) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Damn I've forgotten most of this stuff. lol. Been too long But yea I think TATAA was one of the fill in the blanks for that question. There is also CAAT. Make sure you know your 3' 5' directions. and GC box I think there was a question on the poisons of ETC, MPP (parkinson), different confirmations of ATP synthase, R&T states for phosphorylase (again these might have been on the midterm and not final but worth a look over anyways) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkittens Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Damn I've forgotten most of this stuff. lol. Been too long But yea I think TATAA was one of the fill in the blanks for that question. There is also CAAT. Make sure you know your 3' 5' directions. and GC box Haha thanks mate I just hope he doesn't throw anything stupid in the translating thing.... I don't think you could actually deduce the start site from where the promoter is, he'd probably just tell you where to start and it's easy from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baljotk Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 You came for us! Dude will he tell you where to start translating from the DNA or does he want you to recognize the promoter elements and such? Don't we just start from the start codon (AUG)? I'm pretty confused about the promoter regions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Check my last post, I added some stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baljotk Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Appreciate it man. I hate his SA questions, they're worth so much and they're so random. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkittens Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Don't we just start from the start codon (AUG)? I'm pretty confused about the promoter regions. For translation yeah you start at AUG, but you have to splice out the introns (5' end of AG/GUAAGU and 3'side of AAAAAAAAXCAG/) on the mRNA before you do it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 You should just google a sample DNA sequence decoding (DNA-mRNA-protein). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baljotk Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 "I won't require you to give the sequence of entire mRNA, that would be 100s of base pairs long. I will only ask for the open reading frame region." So we're good right? We just translate the template to mRNA, remove the introns (GU-AG) and then translate to proteins right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkittens Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 "I won't require you to give the sequence of entire mRNA, that would be 100s of base pairs long. I will only ask for the open reading frame region." So we're good right? We just translate the template to mRNA, remove the introns (GU-AG) and then translate to proteins right? Yeah I guess so BTW "open readin frame" means the place where transcription starts from right? LOL I shoulda gone to class/listened to his lectures I know nothing outside of the slides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baljotk Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Yeah I guess soBTW "open readin frame" means the place where transcription starts from right? LOL I shoulda gone to class/listened to his lectures I know nothing outside of the slides yep, he did the promoter part for us basically. Do you know if the amino acid is translated off the codon or the anticodon? I think its the codon but im not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkittens Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 yep, he did the promoter part for us basically.Do you know if the amino acid is translated off the codon or the anticodon? I think its the codon but im not sure. The codon, anticodon's only relevant because it lets the aminoacyl-tRNA recognize the codon but the chart he gives you will be the codons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baljotk Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 The codon, anticodon's only relevant because it lets the aminoacyl-tRNA recognize the codon but the chart he gives you will be the codons Alright thanks. We should be good for the SA. The multiple-choice is going to be all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkittens Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Alright thanks. We should be good for the SA.The multiple-choice is going to be all over the place. Well be afraid he needs to take the average down lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baljotk Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 25% chance right? hahah good luck man. I'm going to bed, hopefully get up early and cram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2520 Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Anyone here take biol 3051 w/Phillip Johnson or immuno with da sylva if you guys did how were their exams? On a side note, maximus I cant send you messages from some reason but the majority of the newer notes include extra detail from like stuff birot and wu talked about and also textbook material. Let me send you the muscle physio it has more material, I didnt put that much detail into blood because im taking immuno right now and majority of the stuff overlaps lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkittens Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 25% chance right? hahah good luck man. I'm going to bed, hopefully get up early and cram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Any easy, no assignments, exam-only, non-Psyc courses next semester? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurepediatric Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Any easy, no assignments, exam-only, non-Psyc courses next semester? PSYC 2230: Motivation w/Marchese - 45% midterm 55% final PSYC 2120: Social Psychology w/Struthers -30% midterm, another 30% midterm and 40 % final both taken this semester but i think they are offered next semester as well and both are non-cumulative (except lectures are cumulative for doc psych, but txt material is not) so they were quite easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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