herewego Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 So if they already have the stats posted, why the heck does it take so long to get invites and rejections out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zunik Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 So if they already have the stats posted, why the heck does it take so long to get invites and rejections out? I'm assuming they make a quick final check to each file before sending them out, just to avoid mistakes. I don't think its automated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
med-dream Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I'm assuming they make a quick final check to each file before sending them out, just to avoid mistakes. I don't think its automated. I guess that they release the rejections from low scores to high scores while the invitation from high scores to low scores, and the rejections start first till Wednesday, the invitations start from Wednesday for early submissions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimism101 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Last year if I remember correctly, each day leading up to Friday there were rejections for different categories of applicants. I believe on Monday or Tuesday, rejections/disqualifications were sent out for those who didn't meet the cut offs or whose files were otherwise not given a full review. Next, on the Tuesday or Weds there were OOP rejections. Finally on Thursday the vast majority of rejections (IP and maybe also OOP) were sent out, with invitations being sent on Friday. I expect this year will be the same, with the exception of the early notice for those who submitted early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
med-dream Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Last year if I remember correctly, each day leading up to Friday there were rejections for different categories of applicants. I believe on Monday or Tuesday, rejections/disqualifications were sent out for those who didn't meet the cut offs or whose files were otherwise not given a full review. Next, on the Tuesday or Weds there were OOP rejections. Finally on Thursday the vast majority of rejections (IP and maybe also OOP) were sent out, with invitations being sent on Friday. I expect this year will be the same, with the exception of the early notice for those who submitted early. One of the friends got the invitation on Wednesday last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advair250 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Any idea if pre-req avg factors into AQ at all? Or is it solely a conversion of your oGPA or aGPA using the undisclosed method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herewego Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 For the NAQ, how do they weigh the various factors? I don't have much shadowing experience, but I have 2 years of research with publications, world-wide presentations, Grand Rounds presentations, and UG presentations, and numerous domestic/international extracurriculars. I am not worried about my AQ score, but I would hate to miss the boat because of NAQ quantity over quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
med-dream Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 For the NAQ, how do they weigh the various factors? I don't have much shadowing experience, but I have 2 years of research with publications, world-wide presentations, Grand Rounds presentations, and UG presentations, and numerous domestic/international extracurriculars. I am not worried about my AQ score, but I would hate to miss the boat because of NAQ quantity over quality Nobody would clearly know about how they weigh the activities for NAQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kardia123 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 For the NAQ, how do they weigh the various factors? I don't have much shadowing experience, but I have 2 years of research with publications, world-wide presentations, Grand Rounds presentations, and UG presentations, and numerous domestic/international extracurriculars. I am not worried about my AQ score, but I would hate to miss the boat because of NAQ quantity over quality im sure no one on here knows exactly how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beautiful_Dreamer Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I sincerely hope so. Last year the interview decisions were released Nov 16th, so we may have to wait a day or two... I am quite nervous as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhgel Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 if the average GPA is 87.05%, does that mean tht 87.05% correspond to a 25 AQ? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beautiful_Dreamer Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 No...how did you calculate that number? Anyways, there is no way 87% would equate to a score that low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpuppy Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 the average GPA should equal the average AQ, since no other factors are considered. Thus: 87% GPA = 40 AQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wutdo Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 if the average GPA is 87.05%, does that mean tht 87.05% correspond to a 25 AQ? thanks this just means the average GPA of the people invited to interview is just that ... 87.05% There could be some guy with 50/50 NAQ and like 15/50 AQ (nowhere near 87) who got an interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhgel Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 No...how did you calculate that number? Anyways, there is no way 87% would equate to a score that low. sorry my bad please disregard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpuppy Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 and actually: all apps: GPA: 85.13 AQ: 32.93 invited: GPA: 87.54 AQ: 40.36 as you can see.. pretty steep drops in AQ.. Using just these two numbers you get a factor of: 3.083 score change per percentage point... pretty close to that other formula but not as harsh. (i.e. GPA% x 3.083 - 229.53)... .. I adjusted 229.53 to match the AQ score Of course, this is all assuming there's a linear relationship... not looking good for me :/ two things to take into account: (1) 78.4% would equal to the minimum for in-province applicants based on a TFR of 62.05 (i.e. 50/50 for your NAQ) (2) 83.8% would equal to the minimum for out-of-province applicants based on a TFR of 78.80 (i.e. 50/50 for your NAQ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wutdo Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 and actually: all apps: GPA: 85.13 AQ: 32.93 invited: GPA: 87.54 AQ: 40.36 as you can see.. pretty steep drops in AQ.. Using just these two numbers you get a factor of: 3.083 score change per percentage point... pretty close to that other formula but not as harsh. (i.e. GPA% x 3.083 - 229.53)... .. I adjusted 229.53 to match the AQ score Of course, this is all assuming there's a linear relationship... not looking good for me :/ Nor is it looking good for me. The thing you have to realize though is those crazy people who can keep 95% averages skew the average up. I honestly wonder if people with like 83% even have a chance anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpuppy Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 updated my post after your reply -- sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpuppy Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 OK.. last response: I looked to further validate the formula by plugging in last year's GPAs and comparing the calculated AQs with those in the interim stats doc.. very close... this confirms my suspicions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpuppy Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Question: Does anyone know how MCAT scores are considered?? I can't find information about it. Are they considered at all pre-interview? If they are, is it NAQ ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimism101 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I think they're only used as flags, ie a score under 7 or so might put you out of the running but that's it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee23 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 If it is the same as last year, MCAT is not considered pre-interview, but actually can have a big impact on your file if you don't have a very good score post-interview. For stats numbers, last year my AGPA was 88.97 and my AQ score was 46.56. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 My predictions are complete silence today. Tomorrow disqualifications for OOP and IP. Wednesday rejections for OOP and early invites for OOP who hit early deadline. Thursday rejections and early invites for IP. Friday invites for normal deadline IP applicants. Just pure speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylamonkey Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 The formula is on page 35 of last year's thread. http://premed101.com/forums/showthread.php?p=646635&highlight=formula#post646635 It's post #350 in: http://premed101.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57628&highlight=formula IN any case, yes, it was mathematically impossible last year to get an interview if you had less than about a 78% GPA. Also, if you look at the stats: http://mdprogram.med.ubc.ca/files/2012/12/Interim-Statistics-2012-13-MED-2017.pdf The average GPA of all applicants was 32.92, while the average AQ for those offered an interview is 40.36. Meanwhile, back in NAQ land, the average for all applicants is 30.03, and the average of those interviewed is 32.68. This means that AQ (and thus GPA) has a much higher predictive power as to whether you will get an interview or not. NAQ is just about moot WRT the UBC process. In any case, good luck over the next few days to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surferdoc Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Just got my regrets. Brutal. I had a 44.5 NAQ with a 78% average (9.18 AQ) and can't get an interview even. UBC is obvioulsy pretty pro grades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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