LostLamb Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 30 posts and it isn't even january. can one say EAGER?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LupeFiasco Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Didn't they notify some people in December last year? - Lupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igeorgex Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 they started last year on dec. 16... a lot of my friends knew about their queen's interviews right after we finished exams. here's hoping we can expect some good news in a week!! and that people who hear first post their stats here so we can figure out MCAT cut-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 ^ Just to help keep it organized, I think we're supposed to post stats in the "2010 Interview Stats" thread, and create rumors and dirty secrets about the interview selection in this thread! (Or, discuss the decisions and determine the cut-offs. Whatever we see most fit? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaceful Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Can someone summarize the MCAT cutoffs for Queen's from the past three years? I know the writing sample cut-off was an R from last year, but what about the two years before that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LupeFiasco Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Can someone summarize the MCAT cutoffs for Queen's from the past three years? I know the writing sample cut-off was an R from last year, but what about the two years before that? Entering Class of 2008: R Entering Class of 2009: Q Entering Class of 2010: R -- Verbal seemed to be 10 (I could be wrong) -- Physical Sciences was 9 for sure -- Biological Sciences could have been a 10 or 11, I'm note sure - Lupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaceful Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Entering Class of 2008: R Entering Class of 2009: Q Entering Class of 2010: R -- Verbal seemed to be 10 (I could be wrong) -- Physical Sciences was 9 for sure -- Biological Sciences could have been a 10 or 11, I'm note sure - Lupe Thanks Lupe! Crossing my fingers and toes for a Q cut-off!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhc911 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Interview selection is entirely gpa and mcat based? And post interview what is the weighting breakdown? entirely interview, mixed, something more fancy-pants? What about reference letters? I'm curious because while Queen's isn't my #1 (although my father studied medicine there), I have a 39T (14 bio, 11 VR, 14 phys) and a pretty high gpa... My reference letters may not have been the best, and my ECs aren't /insane/... but I get the sensation that I should get an interview if it is gpa and mcat based? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatonekid Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Interview selection is entirely gpa and mcat based? And post interview what is the weighting breakdown? entirely interview, mixed, something more fancy-pants? What about reference letters? I'm curious because while Queen's isn't my #1 (although my father studied medicine there), I have a 39T (14 bio, 11 VR, 14 phys) and a pretty high gpa... My reference letters may not have been the best, and my ECs aren't /insane/... but I get the sensation that I should get an interview if it is gpa and mcat based? Acceptance/Rejection post-interview is based 100% on your interview score (iirc). From your mcat score and your high gpa, you should get an interview. *thumbs up for you* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LupeFiasco Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 I recently heard a rumor that Queens was switching to a holistic review process for applications and the interview is now going to be MMI? Could some Queens Medical Students comment on this? - Lupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 wow, I'm assuming that would start after this application cycle, seeing as the changes haven't been published on the med admissions site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LupeFiasco Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Ya probably. I head about this a couple weeks ago. Not sure if it's true. - Lupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Law Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 If it's true, I'm going to be extremely happy lol. Where did this rumour start? Edit: Just got the info from their site, they are switching to MMI... but still using cutoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 I do hope the system changes. Not that a holistic approach would give me a better chance at getting in, but Queen's must really limit themselves with these tough mcat cutoffs. Especially with the computer test administration and the popularity of mcat prep courses, people can rewrite easily, and study with prep courses until they make the cutoff. Not that second chances to write the test should be banned, but this system seems to favor those who can sacrifice the time and especially money to help get stellar scores, and this hinders applicants who need to work multiple summer jobs and part-time through the school year to get by. Essentially, I'm arguing that the costly (yet effective) prep courses are really hurting the mcat's validity. No, this is not backed up by any research whatsoever, just personal experience, take it for what it's worth! Of course, the Queen's system is a tried and true method, and the current Queen's med students seem like absolutely amazing people, but I think the system may be outdated. For the record, I did take an mcat prep course. Although idealistically, I believe these costly prep courses create unfair advantages...I'm not going to pass up an opportunity that would significantly boost my chances at med school! Now I just need to figure out how to fix my broken bank Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Law Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 I don't think that's really the case. I took a prep course and did poorly. When I studied alone I did well. I just don't favour strict cutoffs because I don't think it's a good way to pick people. A more holistic approach is way better and justifies the hard work that people put into preparing for this career. If we work so hard, isn't it only fair for review processes to consider our achievements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Thanks for looking law! If anyone's curious: http://meds.queensu.ca/undergraduate/prospective_students/method_of_selection Well my last rant is irrelevant if they are maintaining their cutoffs...unless the MMI allows them to interview more people and therefore ease up on cutoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Well it's not like the mcat course hindered your score, you aren't banned from studying alone...kaplan/princeton have significant success with boosting marks compared with other rewrites who didn't take a course. The course enables most people to do very well. But we are ultimately arguing for the same thing - I'm looking at negatives of the current situation, you're looking at the positives of moving forward. I absolutely agree with you there...it's so disappointing now that maybe only 1 or 2 of my extracurricular activities may come up in the MMI, when I've spent years building up these experiences. At least in the panel interview format, extracirrics could be mentioned and you could tell a story about yourself to the same people, shape who you are, but now with MMI that's stifled. Although the MMI has obvious merits, this may be a step backwards in terms of appreciating the applicant as a whole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NervesNormalBreathNormal Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 I heard that they're using a kind of modified MMI, with the last question being longer and similar to the traditional interview questions. Either way, looks like things are changing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LupeFiasco Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Some speculation on my part: Most schools that use the MMI look at more than just an applicant's GPA and MCAT. I think Manitoba is the only one that only looks at GPA and MCAT, and has an MMI format. Do you guys think Queens will stick with GPA and MCAT cutoffs or do you think they might change? And if you think they'll change, do you think it will start this cycle or the next cycle? Personally, I'm not sure if they are going to change. But if for some reason they did decide to change, I imagine it would start next cycle. Thoughts? - Lupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGGSaint Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Some speculation on my part: Most schools that use the MMI look at more than just an applicant's GPA and MCAT. I think Manitoba is the only one that only looks at GPA and MCAT, and has an MMI format. Do you guys think Queens will stick with GPA and MCAT cutoffs or do you think they might change? And if you think they'll change, do you think it will start this cycle or the next cycle? Personally, I'm not sure if they are going to change. But if for some reason they did decide to change, I imagine it would start next cycle. Thoughts? - Lupe As I mentioned somewhere before, I have heard they have a new dean at Queen's. Changes to their admissions process even for this year would not surprise me. The trad -> MMI switch is big and does increase capacity to interview more people. Although Queen's did interview quite a few already in the past few years. I do think the cutoffs may be affected this year. No idea by how much but I wouldn't be surprised to see some part of the cutoffs drop if Queen's is indeed being more holistic this year. The cutoffs could also change completely if the new dean decides that is the best way to go (although probably unlikely since what they have seems to work for them). Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 simpy, I hope so too, but I'm uneasy about this...on the bottom of the Queen's website (from the link i posted above) "Note: The stated admission requirements are accurate for applications to the program for enrollment in Sept. 2011 and are subject to change for future years." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLAV Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 maybe i'm imagining this. but didn't queens try the MMI thing before? i think it might have been two years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preppy038 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Man, so many trials going on this year's application cycle... Mcmaster's CASPer and Queen's trying MMI I don't know how that will affect the general applicant population loll we do not know what to expect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGGSaint Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Man, so many trials going on this year's application cycle...Mcmaster's CASPer and Queen's trying MMI ++. And UBC changing their AQ system + throwing out the essay component. McGill removing the MCAT. It's been a roller coaster ride in terms of change across Canadian medical school w/ regards to admissions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Some speculation on my part: Most schools that use the MMI look at more than just an applicant's GPA and MCAT. I think Manitoba is the only one that only looks at GPA and MCAT, and has an MMI format. Do you guys think Queens will stick with GPA and MCAT cutoffs or do you think they might change? And if you think they'll change, do you think it will start this cycle or the next cycle? Personally, I'm not sure if they are going to change. But if for some reason they did decide to change, I imagine it would start next cycle. Thoughts? - Lupe U of S only looked at my raw stats when I applied there 2 years ago and they were MMI. Have they changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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