CornMan Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 Hey ! I applied to Med-P at both McGill and UdeM (fingers crossed). I was wondering if anyone had any input on the medical school curriculum at either McGill or UdeM (pros and cons). I am conflicted and have not even received responses from either school (we love hopeful thinking). PantryJar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offmychestplease Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 one is English, one is French sara2000, PantryJar, Alk and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornMan Posted April 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, offmychestplease said: one is English, one is French well, yes!! that I know! I meant in terms of the curriculum, the extra-curricular activities, clinical experience, residency matches, and so on... :)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offmychestplease Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 sorry I was trying to be smart lol...I have no idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornMan Posted April 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 Just now, offmychestplease said: sorry I was trying to be smart lol...I have no idea it’s okay, it was funny, I appreciated the humour, made me laugh offmychestplease and PantryJar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantryJar Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 I believe that - for McGill- both dent and med students have the same courses until year 2, and then they break off. Med students start clinical rotations in year 3 Not sure how it is at udem though CornMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornMan Posted April 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, PantryJar said: I believe that - for McGill- both dent and med students have the same courses until year 2, and then they break off. Med students start clinical rotations in year 3 Not sure how it is at udem though the insight is immaculate thank you PantryJar PantryJar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaudeB Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 McGill seem to be more course based, with small groups. U de M teaching is done with APP- Apprentissages par problèmes. McGill curriculum schema is here: https://www.mcgill.ca/ugme/files/ugme/mdcm_schema_2020-02-07_en.pdf For umontrea you can find some info here https://medecine.umontreal.ca/etudes/doctorat-en-medecine/structure-du-programme/ with the student schedule here: https://md.umontreal.ca/. If you click on année préparatoire, préclinique, externat, etc, you will have access to the schedule. I have no idea about extra curricular activities and residency match. bbpremed and CornMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornMan Posted April 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 6 hours ago, MaudeB said: McGill seem to be more course based, with small groups. U de M teaching is done with APP- Apprentissages par problèmes. McGill curriculum schema is here: https://www.mcgill.ca/ugme/files/ugme/mdcm_schema_2020-02-07_en.pdf For umontrea you can find some info here https://medecine.umontreal.ca/etudes/doctorat-en-medecine/structure-du-programme/ with the student schedule here: https://md.umontreal.ca/. If you click on année préparatoire, préclinique, externat, etc, you will have access to the schedule. I have no idea about extra curricular activities and residency match. WoW! thank you so much! this is super helpful :)) I really appreciate it. I will look into all of this!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK. Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 I made a doc comparing both programs as I'm facing the same dilemma. The content is from the information on the uni's websites so, unfortunately, there's no insight from current students. Hope it somewhat helps. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LXfArZ4RxtdwIduIph6-QOGH6k4NlGi0/view?usp=sharing Edit: it doesn't include McGill's Med-P or UdeM's année préparatoire. Editing is allowed so anyone feel free to supplement it! Meiji, CornMan, soupefroide and 5 others 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupefroide Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 44 minutes ago, MK. said: I made a doc comparing both programs as I'm facing the same dilemma. The content is from the information on the uni's websites so, unfortunately, there's no insight from current students. Hope it somewhat helps. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LXfArZ4RxtdwIduIph6-QOGH6k4NlGi0/view?usp=sharing Goat! Thank you so much for putting this document together. I’ll add that the preparatory year is very different in both universities as well; UdeM’s année préparatoire is more similar to Y1-Y2 of an MD program whereas McGill’s Med-P curriculum is akin to a regular first-year BSc program with 6 courses each semester (including complementaries and electives). CornMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambi Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 Being accepted into Med-P at McGill is not an acceptance into medicine, whereas acceptance into the preparatory year at UdeM is an acceptance into medicine. As well, the preparatory year at UdeM prepares you for medicine whereas the Med-P year does not. CornMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatisgoingon Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Bambi said: Being accepted into Med-P at McGill is not an acceptance into medicine, whereas acceptance into the preparatory year at UdeM is an acceptance into medicine. As well, the preparatory year at UdeM prepares you for medicine whereas the Med-P year does not. There's a pretty high chance of moving on to M1 from Med-P if you put in a minimal amount of work though. OP if you want to stay in Qc and are aiming for a competitive specialty I would go to UdM, they tend to favour their own and have a pretty good number of positions in many specialties that are more contingentees CornMan, MK. and futuredoc43 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futuredoc43 Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, whatisgoingon said: There's a pretty high chance of moving on to M1 from Med-P if you put in a minimal amount of work though. OP if you want to stay in Qc and are aiming for a competitive specialty I would go to UdM, they tend to favour their own and have a pretty good number of positions in many specialties that are more contingentees Exactly, you just need to get at least a B in all your Med-P classes, and maintain an overall 3,5 GPA, which is very doable from what I've been told. Yes, some had to retake Med-P year, but it's rare, and they do get into M1 afterwards. You seem to know a lot about UDEM, so I was wondering if they favor more their own students from only the Montreal campus, or also the Trois-Rivières one. CornMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornMan Posted April 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 5 hours ago, MK. said: I made a doc comparing both programs as I'm facing the same dilemma. The content is from the information on the uni's websites so, unfortunately, there's no insight from current students. Hope it somewhat helps. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LXfArZ4RxtdwIduIph6-QOGH6k4NlGi0/view?usp=sharing Edit: it doesn't include McGill's Med-P or UdeM's année préparatoire. Editing is allowed so anyone feel free to supplement it! okay, but like, why is this the most beautiful Google Docs I’ve ever seen in my life! thank you so much, honestly, this is super helpful :)) PantryJar, sara2000, MK. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraLes Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 17 hours ago, whatisgoingon said: There's a pretty high chance of moving on to M1 from Med-P if you put in a minimal amount of work though. OP if you want to stay in Qc and are aiming for a competitive specialty I would go to UdM, they tend to favour their own and have a pretty good number of positions in many specialties that are more contingentees Is it hard to match outside of Quebec out of UdeM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatisgoingon Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 36 minutes ago, LauraLes said: Is it hard to match outside of Quebec out of UdeM? I don't think so, it's just that UdM students tend to want to stay. Not so many apply outside of QC. As to whether they favor Montreal over Trois-Rivieres, I highly doubt it. If there is an advantage it may just be related to getting letters and exposure to the PDs which are essentially all in Montreal as far as I know LauraLes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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