Retsage Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Up to 2007, Queen's and Western were very much synched on cutoffs. That meant most people interviewing at one were interviewing at the other. It was last year that Queen's went off the deep end with the WS, and Western did not. All of a sudden, plenty of people had only one or the other, not both. More unique students were added to the mix. The waitlist movement last year was almost non-existent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Well, for this year what was the cut-off for Queens? I think that this year, most ppl interviewing at Queen's would also have an interview at Western? I think they have similar cut-offs with Queen's having lower scores for the MCAT. I think last year Queen's had that R or S cutoff for writing which made the interviewees from Western and Queen's different. However this year the WS is back at Q, so maybe more overlap between the two schools and more waitlist movement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastriss Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I am going to say that the 67 offers will hold. Now I will say that it is in fact better than 167/760, and here's where this analysis gets tricky to understand. First off, the 67 are offers sent, which means that when you say your odds are 167/760, you are assuming that everyone has stayed on the waitlist and has not dropped out. Lets look at school xyz who had 20 interviewees. There are 5 seats and of the 20 interviewees, 10 will be waitlisted, and 5 rejected post interview. 1 Offered 2 Offered 3 Offered 4 Offered 5 Offered 6 WL all the way down to 15. 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Say that 6,7,9, and 11, get accepted at school ABC come may 15th, they love it, and drop out of the list. Now the ranking is: 1 Offered 2 Offered 3 Offered 4 Offered 5 Offered 8 10 12 13 14 15 Now June rolls around, applicants 3,4,5 get into school def. They will reject their acceptances. At this time, 10 gets off the waitlist somewhere else, and drop out. Now the offer goes to the next ranked people, which are 10,11,12 1 Offered 2 Offered 3 Offer refused 4 Offer refused 5 Offer refused 10 Offer extended 11 Offer extended 12 Offer extended 13 14 15 In this model, the chances of getting in were a lot better. Of course if you are higher on the list, there are less people in front of you to drop out, but these people may have been good interviewers and got offers right off the bat, so while you have less people ahead of you, they may have a better chance to drop out individually. Also if you are looking at two schools, considering those that drop from the waitlist may end up in you doublecounting. IE applicants 6,8,9 may have increased your chances at schools xyz in this case, but would have dropped your chances at abc if you were on that WL too. Hope that gives you a little more hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastriss Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Wow wait did someone say they will 'cut you off', does anyone think that is so disrespectful? LOL wtf is this? american idol? Epic fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsage Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I said it, but didn't mean it like that. They just told me they'd remind me if I was going too long on an answer, so I could wrap it up. Not that they're Simon Cowelling your ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastriss Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I said it, but didn't mean it like that. They just told me they'd remind me if I was going too long on an answer, so I could wrap it up. Not that they're Simon Cowelling your ass. Yeah but I just got that from another buddy of mine from mac health sci who interviewed. He said they had poker faces, asked for stuff, and were pretty apathetic to it all. He wondered if all interviews were like that, and I said no it isn't. I thought it was specific to one group of interviewers, but it seems that is the case. And I was wondering why others were mentioning something about the "timing". Nice Simon reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochi1543 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 o btw. did your interviewers write down stuff as you talked? I noticed my student wrote like 2 words after my 1st question and then drew an arrow straight through all the way to the next question. OMGZ I'M GONNA GET REJECTED! LOL. I couldn't see what they wrote, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochi1543 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Yeah but I just got that from another buddy of mine from mac health sci who interviewed. He said they had poker faces, asked for stuff, and were pretty apathetic to it all. He wondered if all interviews were like that, and I said no it isn't. I thought it was specific to one group of interviewers, but it seems that is the case. And I was wondering why others were mentioning something about the "timing". Nice Simon reference. My interviewers were neither fawning over me nor being apathetic (or douchey, like last year, lol). I thought it was perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastriss Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 My interviewers were neither fawning over me nor being apathetic (or douchey, like last year, lol). I thought it was perfect. Oh hey hope the trip wasn't too bad? Ahh variability is plentiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Up to 2007, Queen's and Western were very much synched on cutoffs. That meant most people interviewing at one were interviewing at the other. It was last year that Queen's went off the deep end with the WS, and Western did not. All of a sudden, plenty of people had only one or the other, not both. More unique students were added to the mix. The waitlist movement last year was almost non-existent. Queen dropped back down their WS requirement (I think that is the general belief now), so I wonder if once again the schools will be similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fumblingcarolyn Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I wouldn't worry about it too much. I'm pretty sure they're told to remain stone-faced at all times. My doctor interviewer smiled maybe a handful of times. My two interviewers were actually really friendly. Both of them nodded and smiled for all of my answers. It was really encouraging because I wasn't second guessing myself the entire time. Although afterwards all of the first year students told me that if they could have chosen one MD to interview with it would have been the Dr I ended up with. I was also told that the interviewers don't know who they will be interviewing. There is just a pile of papers that have been shuffled with the names of all of the interviewees for the current time slot and the interviewers just take the next paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habman6 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 My two interviewers were actually really friendly. Both of them nodded and smiled for all of my answers. It was really encouraging because I wasn't second guessing myself the entire time. Although afterwards all of the first year students told me that if they could have chosen one MD to interview with it would have been the Dr I ended up with. I was also told that the interviewers don't know who they will be interviewing. There is just a pile of papers that have been shuffled with the names of all of the interviewees for the current time slot and the interviewers just take the next paper. Which one was it? (pm- possibly......if this isn't confidential) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smore Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 My two interviewers were VERY different, the physician seemed pretty quiet and laid-back, but the wed student was very excited and he nodded a lot. I am NOT a fan of the standardized questions because if one of the interviewers hears something they like, they don't have the option of asking you more about it! They also told me that the interview was only going to be 30 minutes the second I walked in, not 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastriss Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 This begs the question - was it a closed file or open file? I don't see the point of the sketch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochi1543 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 This begs the question - was it a closed file or open file? I don't see the point of the sketch. Looked like it was closed file to me. Like you said, no point in having your sketch there, because they don't ask you anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supafield Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 This begs the question - was it a closed file or open file? I don't see the point of the sketch. Agreed Alastriss... If the questions are set, and there are no follow up questions, what does it matter if they have your sketch or not. Maybe to see when you mention an activity that it was actually listed... and they can see how long ago you did it if you don't make reference to dates? Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smore Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 maybe it was open file... they could have just asked their standardized questions and then referred to your file in case you mentioned one of the activities in your interview and they wanted to confirm/check out what it was? either way, because of the questions, it really didn't make a difference if they had you file or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochi1543 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Agreed Alastriss... If the questions are set, and there are no follow up questions, what does it matter if they have your sketch or not. Maybe to see when you mention an activity that it was actually listed... and they can see how long ago you did it if you don't make reference to dates? Who knows. I went out of my way to mention as many new things (ones that were not yet on the sketch at the app time) as possible, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supafield Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I went out of my way to mention as many new things (ones that were not yet on the sketch at the app time) as possible, lol. OMSAS should really have a January update option. I imagine it would make it a little more complicated for everyone, but I'm sure everyone has a few things they're doing during the year of their application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwillEH Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Queen's is open-file. When I mentioned an activity he said that he had seen it on my sketch and thought it was interesting. I also saw a paper with a list of items in front of him that looked like it could be a list of my sketch items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsage Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Queen dropped back down their WS requirement (I think that is the general belief now), so I wonder if once again the schools will be similar. Ah. Well that's somewhat better news, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler582 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I had a good interview experience on Friday. Sounds like my interview went a bit longer than others'. I don't understand the negativity here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochi1543 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Queen's is open-file. When I mentioned an activity he said that he had seen it on my sketch and thought it was interesting. I also saw a paper with a list of items in front of him that looked like it could be a list of my sketch items. Interesting. I didn't see anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychopath Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Interesting. I didn't see anything like that. Not so standardized then. lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Haven't got to the interview yet but about 6 people already helped find the campus, offered me a ride... none of them have anything to do with the med school This is one friendly city! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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