futuredoc43 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 When do the emails come in today for no-match? 12 pm EST? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcd1288 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 41 minutes ago, futuredoc43 said: When do the emails come in today for no-match? 12 pm EST? Your school will be notified at 12 PM EST. When you get that email depends on the school. Some schools notify you right away, some at the end of day, some don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futuredoc43 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 5 minutes ago, abcd1288 said: Your school will be notified at 12 PM EST. When you get that email depends on the school. Some schools notify you right away, some at the end of day, some don't. thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopChef Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 44 minutes ago, abcd1288 said: Your school will be notified at 12 PM EST. When you get that email depends on the school. Some schools notify you right away, some at the end of day, some don't. And then, there’s mine : my school will notify us tomorrow morning between 9AM and 11h30 lol wannabdoctor, futuredoc43, dooogs and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabdoctor Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Alexa Play "The Final Countdown" Just a reminder (to myself and my peers) to be kind to yourself. We have all worked really hard to be where we are and the outcome tomorrow does not define our worth. Regardless of outcome, I hope you all get your free ice cream cone from DQ tomorrow The very best of luck to everyone, hope the universe works out in our favour <3 abcd1288, TopChef, DrOtter and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon7889 Posted March 18 Author Report Share Posted March 18 If we haven't got an email yet, is it safe to say we matched? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcd1288 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 25 minutes ago, anon7889 said: If we haven't got an email yet, is it safe to say we matched? Depends on your school's policy and whether you opt-in or not. It is your school that will notify you of whether you matched or not. Some will do both, some will only notify if you go unmatched. DrOtter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemPetE Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 5 hours ago, wannabdoctor said: Alexa Play "The Final Countdown" Just a reminder (to myself and my peers) to be kind to yourself. We have all worked really hard to be where we are and the outcome tomorrow does not define our worth. Regardless of outcome, I hope you all get your free ice cream cone from DQ tomorrow The very best of luck to everyone, hope the universe works out in our favour <3 Wait what’s this about free ice cream lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopChef Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 18h!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attempt2 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 36 minutes ago, ChemPetE said: Wait what’s this about free ice cream lmao Free icecream day tomorrow. Also, there is a promo for new accounts of the DQ app: 1$ mini blizzards. ChemPetE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcd1288 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 15 minutes ago, attempt2 said: Free icecream day tomorrow. Also, there is a promo for new accounts of the DQ app: 1$ mini blizzards. Oh snap! Perfect for post-match emotions attempt2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympus Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Home stretch! All the best to you all - I’m sure everyone here will be a phenomenal doctor regardless of outcome TopChef and meeedxx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shikimate Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 The number of FM spots left after round 1 is insane, what a blowout loss day for FM. https://www.carms.ca/pdfs/54klrg22KETp_R1_1_OverviewByDiscipline_EN.pdf hbmed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineLCS Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 It's a weird breakdown - Alberta FM programs (after so much doom and gloom) did so much better than Ontario ones. The "super competitive" IM year shook out largely the same as last year in English Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shikimate Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 I mean a lot of the stories about FM was from ON, including the one in Kingston where 3000 people lined up overnight, and the article that talked about poor fee structure was in TorStar as well, so not surprised to see FM in ON getting destroyed. Never seen 20+ empty spots at Queens and UWO. frenchpress 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemPetE Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 15 minutes ago, MedicineLCS said: It's a weird breakdown - Alberta FM programs (after so much doom and gloom) did so much better than Ontario ones. The "super competitive" IM year shook out largely the same as last year in English Canada. So weird, especially considering AB family med did horribly last year. I wonder if they changed their interview and ranking methods be be more broad in light of last year’s results. I have absolutely zero insider info for that program though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchpress Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 35 minutes ago, ChemPetE said: So weird, especially considering AB family med did horribly last year. I wonder if they changed their interview and ranking methods be be more broad in light of last year’s results. I have absolutely zero insider info for that program though. The interview selection and ranking on the program’s side was never the issue, at least not at the UofA. I am pretty sure they were not being picky. The issue was not enough applicants were actually ranking the programs high enough to match to them. It would be hard to argue it was a problem with program quality, again at least not UofA, which is a pretty great program. I think location desirability and political climate / poor perception of Alberta played the larger role. I suspect the improved match rate for AB FM has more to do with a gradual change in perception (Ontario was in the news about FM a lot more, Alberta has consistently good cost of living compared to much of Canada, is a pretty good place to practice medicine resource wise, docs are generally happy in AB when they post about lifestyle, cost of living, etc. in the financial independence FB group, etc.) and the programs being allowed to take a higher number of IMGs the first round. Edit: perhaps applicants are also looking at the improved fees structures in BC and Manitoba in the last year, along with the fact the AB is already one of the best places to bill for FM in Canada, and thinking moving out west in general is not a bad plan. shikimate and ChemPetE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innocentius Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, shikimate said: The number of FM spots left after round 1 is insane, what a blowout loss day for FM. https://www.carms.ca/pdfs/54klrg22KETp_R1_1_OverviewByDiscipline_EN.pdf plenty of IMGs waiting in the wings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemPetE Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 17 minutes ago, frenchpress said: The interview selection and ranking on the program’s side was never the issue, at least not at the UofA. I am pretty sure they were not being picky. The issue was not enough applicants were actually ranking the programs high enough to match to them. It would be hard to argue it was a problem with program quality, again at least not UofA, which is a pretty great program. I think location desirability and political climate / poor perception of Alberta played the larger role. I suspect the improved match rate for AB FM has more to do with a gradual change in perception (Ontario was in the news about FM a lot more, Alberta has consistently good cost of living compared to much of Canada, is a pretty good place to practice medicine resource wise, docs are generally happy in AB when they post about lifestyle, cost of living, etc. in the financial independence FB group, etc.) and the programs being allowed to take a higher number of IMGs the first round. Edit: perhaps applicants are also looking at the improved fees structures in BC and Manitoba in the last year, along with the fact the AB is already one of the best places to bill for FM in Canada, and thinking moving out west in general is not a bad plan. Interesting! Thank you for the insight. My speculation is entirely unfounded then frenchpress 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shikimate Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 19 minutes ago, frenchpress said: The interview selection and ranking on the program’s side was never the issue, at least not at the UofA. I am pretty sure they were not being picky. The issue was not enough applicants were actually ranking the programs high enough to match to them. It would be hard to argue it was a problem with program quality, again at least not UofA, which is a pretty great program. I think location desirability and political climate / poor perception of Alberta played the larger role. I suspect the improved match rate for AB FM has more to do with a gradual change in perception (Ontario was in the news about FM a lot more, Alberta has consistently good cost of living compared to much of Canada, is a pretty good place to practice medicine resource wise, docs are generally happy in AB when they post about lifestyle, cost of living, etc. in the financial independence FB group, etc.) and the programs being allowed to take a higher number of IMGs the first round. Edit: perhaps applicants are also looking at the improved fees structures in BC and Manitoba in the last year, along with the fact the AB is already one of the best places to bill for FM in Canada, and thinking moving out west in general is not a bad plan. AB real estate is red hot for similar reasons. People fed up with Ontario prices are moving out west. Last year there were 2 residents where I trained, both are now practicing in AB. At least for my area, ON is notorious for lower pay (376K vs 500+K), higher taxes, and almost inevitably requiring fellowship to practice. A lot of grads who stay are IMGs, who either has to do ROS or due to family reasons cannot leave GTA. frenchpress 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Findanus Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 46 minutes ago, innocentius said: plenty of IMGs waiting in the wings... It's a downward spiral in interest, and subsequently income. FM is already looking like a bad deal for most CMGs, resulting in lower interest, resulting in more IMGs, resulting in lower prestige and income, resulting in lower CMG interest... innocentius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NutritionRunner Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, shikimate said: The number of FM spots left after round 1 is insane, what a blowout loss day for FM. https://www.carms.ca/pdfs/54klrg22KETp_R1_1_OverviewByDiscipline_EN.pdf What happened at Queen's? 23 FM spots in Kingston left? Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burntcheese Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 What a weird year. The amount of gen surg, ob/gyn and cardiac spots left is surprising. indefatigable, hbmed, Psych and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indefatigable Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 3 hours ago, gensurg66 said: What a weird year. The amount of gen surg, ob/gyn and cardiac spots left is surprising. Agree. Cardiac is a very small specialty. I've also never seen unfilled RC EM spots before. Still holding my breath for a full ROAD + Plastics in round two. Geographic distribution is mostly as expected although Western seems to have an unusual number of competitive positions left over. Possible transfers? UofT filled up except for an open neurology spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haenurplaza Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 3 hours ago, shikimate said: The number of FM spots left after round 1 is insane, what a blowout loss day for FM. https://www.carms.ca/pdfs/54klrg22KETp_R1_1_OverviewByDiscipline_EN.pdf Weirdly in Quebec this year there are a lot less FM spots than usual... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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