MedicineLCS Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Ontario have mercy said: Do we think that 7:39 is a separate bin or a continuation of 7:37? Continuation. The first obvious reset is at 7:41:34 pinkneuron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandijk.04 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Just now, WuhanClan said: Hey thank you for joining us, much appreciated for sharing your information! Did you get an offer or you're just joining the party? And would you be kind enough to check the created time? no offer, sorry for the confusion and 7:39:03 is the creation time (according to outlook) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequalsMD Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ontario have mercy said: Do we think that 7:39 is a separate bin or a continuation of 7:37? My biggest confusion rn. I think because we see a decent number of 7:38 creation times, it's a continuation but cannot explain further. Maybe a delay/lag somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalltowncelery Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, nsa98 said: How did you determine the creation stamp after forwarding to gmail? forwarded to gmail then clicked on the get original button then control F for creation time it was at the very bottom of the email, let me know if you found it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkneuron Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 minute ago, WuhanClan said: My biggest confusion rn. I think because we see a decent number of 7:38 creation times, it's a continuation but cannot explain further. Maybe a delay/lag somehow. I think it's a continuation as well because if it was a new bin then 7:39 am people should have 4.0 GPAs but people seem to be around 3.95 GPAs, which makes sense because the people at 7:37 am have 3.97-3.96 GPAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysweater Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, pinkneuron said: I think it's a continuation as well because if it was a new bin then 7:39 am people should have 4.0 GPAs but people seem to be around 3.95 GPAs, which makes sense because the people at 7:37 am have 3.97-3.96 GPAs. I also agree that its a continuation and bin 1 runs from 7:37 to ~7:41 ish (it's hard to make out where bin 1 ends because you see 4s and 3.99s jump up at 7:41:34 but my GPA is substantially lower yet lumped in at the same time with the 4.0s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineLCS Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 For anyone worried that this means the waitlist pool is shrinking (the perennial bounce between being excited to see offers and realizing it means the pool is shrinking) there's still tons of hope to go around. We're up to 7 waitlist offers (vs. 20 posted last year). HOWEVER, 65 people (if I counted right) have self-reported being on the good waitlist. With this high a number of people the number of people getting waitlist offers who are not posting here cannot be that large. ALSO, a bunch of people will be rejecting waitlist offers/removing themselves from the good waitlist. In the AFMC data Ottawa typically sees 84-93 offer rejections. Given that Ottawa doesn't overoffer (the waitlist email seemed to clearly indicate no, as would DrOtter's very early waitlist offer) there are still tons of waitlist offers left. If we assume that 30 of those offers are for the non-English streams (which is a high estimate based off the previous posts) that leaves 54-63 offers for the English stream. Even if we assume that there are twice as many people as shown (130) on the good waitlist who are getting offers and not posting them we'd still only be up to 14 offers out of a lower range value of 54, which still leaves tons of room, AND the first offer deadline hasn't passed yet. So don't lose hope just yet! It's not over till it's over. SmallOni, Cardi(ology) B, WhiteChocolate&Caramel and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr. Shqipe Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Random question: don't want to add any anxiety but just curious to what you all think. Do you think a waitlist email went out every second (except for where there may have been a ~minute lag?). Looking at the spread sheet, some emails went out in close successions, so just wondering if this could provide an idea of the size of the good waitlist? Again, this could mean absolutely nothing--hope we all get some good news over the next week or so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineLCS Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 @Dr. Shqipe I addressed that earlier, but it's basically impossible. If that theory is true we'd be up to a good waitlist several times larger than the entire interviewee pool by 7:46. Closer time stamps=closer GPAs, but other than that, I wouldn't read too much into "gaps". ALTHOUGH the 7:40 gap is kinda interesting. It's possible the servers were busy or had a cool-down period programmed in, I'm not going to second guess it except to point out that an email/second is not possible with the range we're seeing. I'd also add that reading too much into GPA differences and inconsistencies doesn't say much either. People can lie/calculate their GPA wrong so, without pointing fingers, the time stamps>GPA. FINAL EDIT: I'd also not read too much into how many offers are sent per day. I highly doubt someone is solely tasked with keeping up on the waitlist, there are other jobs right now to do in the office, so they're likely sending out waitlist offers as they have time. askingforforgiveness 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shqipe Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, MedicineLCS said: @Dr. Shqipe I addressed that earlier, but it's basically impossible. If that theory is true we'd be up to a good waitlist several times larger than the entire interviewee pool by 7:46. Closer time stamps=closer GPAs, but other than that, I wouldn't read too much into "gaps". ALTHOUGH the 7:40 gap is kinda interesting. It's possible the servers were busy or had a cool-down period programmed in, I'm not going to second guess it except to point out that an email/second is not possible with the range we're seeing. I'd also add that reading too much into GPA differences and inconsistencies doesn't say much either. People can lie/calculate their GPA wrong so, without pointing fingers, the time stamps>GPA. Ok awesome thanks! If omitting ~7:38, 7:40, 7:42, 7:43, and 7:44 as possible cool-down periods, there would be roughly 300 on the good waitlist. But I do agree, that is quite farfetched but just interesting to think about. And yes loads of calculations errors can be made so timestamps are the way to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApplyingMD Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Anyone know why some timestamps were skipped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackattack881 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Just now, ApplyingMD said: Anyone know why some timestamps were skipped? Yeah that's a good question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp44518 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 - TrustTheProcess21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrustTheProcess21 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 I hope they start calling people off of the French stream soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabemdplease Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Can someone summarize how many individuals will be taken off the WL? What timestamp can we anticipate it to reach? I wonder if the # will be less, with some people choosing Ottawa > Mac due to the effect of covid on a 3 yr program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandijk.04 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, wannabemdplease said: Can someone summarize how many individuals will be taken off the WL? What timestamp can we anticipate it to reach? I wonder if the # will be less, with some people choosing Ottawa > Mac due to the effect of covid on a 3 yr program. 87 offers were declined last year (https://afmc.ca/sites/default/files/pdf/2020_admission-requirements_EN.pdf) you can see that this number ranges from 84-93 in the past 5 years. We cannot really assume how many will be taken off the WL this year, we just know that at least 7 have received an offer off the WL this cycle since May 12th. I don't think it would be beneficial to guess what timestamp would be reached because for all we know, there are 60 people that received a WL email at 7:38 that haven't shared their stats :/ I think that the COVID/3-year program may affect the WL movement, but I don't think it will be a huge difference compared to previous no-COVID years. Several friends chose Mac over Ottawa in previous years and are still advocating for Mac, but it's all speculation until we get actual stats once the class at Ottawa is completed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackattack881 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, mp44518 said: Also on the french side, there are a few people with different GPAs but with the same timestamp What do you think that means for the french stream? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PequalsMD Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, vandijk.04 said: Several friends chose Mac over Ottawa Say no cap rn SmallOni, TylenolExtraStrength and Crunch 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandijk.04 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, WuhanClan said: Say no cap rn lmao my guy we're all stressed rn and there's no reason to lie and add to the stress of everyone… I graduated in 2018 so many friends previously chose Mac over Ottawa (edited the original post to reflect this) but I still know at least 4 people that are choosing Mac over Ottawa this year bc they wanna stay closer to GTA among other reasons tbh newmy88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequalsMD Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 @vandijk.04 Ran out of reactions already but thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrustTheProcess21 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 @vandijk.04 As a Liverpool fan, you deserve to get in! #YNWA vandijk.04 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandijk.04 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, TrustTheProcess21 said: @vandijk.04 As a Liverpool fan, you deserve to get in! #YNWA HONESTLY !!!!! Imagine not being prem league champions this season of ALL seasons and not getting accepted hope we all get in though!! TrustTheProcess21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrHopes Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Stats updated for the frenchies. Timestamp theory does not seem to work at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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